Rubus leucodermis is a deciduous Shrub growing to 2.5 m (8ft) by 1 m (3ft 3in) at a medium rate. Both are members of the Rubus genus, which also includes raspberries and wineberries (and dewberries and boysenberries and cloudberries, among others). These usually prickly plants make impenetrable thickets where small animals find secure cover. Though the fruit is much less popular today than it was in the past, both species of the black raspberry is still grown and sold throughout the United States. Its prickly, wild nature makes it best suited for a wild garden. Blackcap ( Rubus leucodermis ) a less common native, can be distinguished by its paler green-blue erect stems, purple fruits, and leaves that have fine white hairs underneath. Vancouver : UBC Press, 1995. Brill, Steve and Evelyn Dean. The berries are also popular with raccoons, opossums, skunks, foxes, squirrels, chipmunks and other rodents. WTU Herbarium Image Collection, Plants of Washington, Burke Museum, E-Flora BC, Electronic Atlas of the Flora of British Columbia, Native American Ethnobotany, University of Michigan, Dearborn, Rubus idaeus L. ssp. The blackberry (Rubus) genus includes berries like dewberries, thimbleberries, and raspberries. Blackberries are typically larger, shiny and firmer. Deciduous shrub-vine, to 6 ft (~ 2m) arching or trailing, stems round, armed (recurved spines or prickles), old stems light bluish due to a waxy coating over red bark. Weiner, Michael A. BLACKBERRY AND RASPBERRY TAXONOMY. (Rubus leucodermis and  Rubus occidentalis). *All photographs on this site were taken by Dana, Edmund or Sky Bressette unless otherwise noted. procerus, R. discolor). Could it be both? Trailing Blackberry, also known as Pacific Blackberry, Pacific Dewberry, California Blackberry and California Dewberry (Rubus Ursinus) is an evergreen viney shrub in the Rose Family (Rosaceae). Leaves usually have 3 sharp-toothed leaflets with white undersides. Besides minor differentiations, the two species are mostly alike. Thus the entire subgenus Rubus has been called the “Rubus fruticosus aggregate”. Both are cane fruits, producing berries on thorny, arching stems (called canes). The leaves are long, ovular, and sharply-toothed with white and hairy undersides (Brill, Dean 113). Many people, however, love the flavor and use them to make pies, jams, jellies, or syrups. Idaeus is derived from Mt. Type: Broadleaf. Additionally, because of their dark color, they are used for dyes. Black raspberry is delicate and plush with a velvety skin like its red counterpart. Use by People: The berries were eaten fresh or dried by natives. The berries usually ripen and are harvested in late summer. Food plants of Coastal First Peoples. Because their plants are so widespread, black raspberries have been traditionally enjoyed by numerous tribes, particularly in the Northwest. Distribution of Blackcap Raspberry from USDA Plants Database . Several species, however, are also considered weeds. The milky blueish-green canes are tough, woody, and covered with curved prickles. They can be found in open, woody areas and prefer mild climates with rich soil. Although they have delicious berries, and are excellent wildlife habitat, these species should be controlled as much as possible or they quickly take over disturbed habitats. Pronunciation: RU-bus lu-ko-DER-mis. Gray (ROO-bus loy-ko-DERM-is) ... (R. discolor), and Evergreen or Cutleaf Blackberry, R. laciniatus. Himalayan blackberry can be distinguished by its smaller flowers ( 2-3 cm across ), erect and archy stems, and its 3-5 oval leaflets with whitew hairs. Blackberry, Rubus fruticosus, also belongs to the Rubus genus. It is in flower in June, and the seeds ripen from July to August. & A. Turner, Nancy J. Like red raspberries, the actual berries are roundish, conical and made up of many seed compounds, though they tend to be smaller and are purplish-black in color. Genus: Rubus. Black raspberries have been growing wild in North America as long as it has been documented. [1][2] Rubus occidentalis is a deciduous shrub growing to 2–3 m tall, with thorny shoots. Or a raspberry? Black raspberry is delicate and plush with a velvety skin like its red counterpart. Distribution: This species is native from central British Columbia (possibly into Southeast Alaska) to southern California; to eastern Montana, Utah, Arizona, and New Mexico. The whitish-pink flowers form clusters and bloom on the top of the canes in mid-spring. The species is hermaphrodite (has both male and female organs) and is pollinated by Insects.